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Extremely extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek message, that I really did not explain ... my negative In reply to spitfirebill: I included that point since when I needed to find a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go with each in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that wasn't sludged up really severely.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're mosting likely to discuss a few concerns of these vans, however I I'm clearly not mosting likely to come out and claim one is much better than the various other. So if that's what you're seeking, you'll need to wait. Mark: So what are some of the differences between these two brand names? Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same car.
Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines after that. Let's chat regarding engine and actually just to specify that the version years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you understand, I imply, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you recognize, for a version of a Chevy van has been around because, you know, around that time also. We're not going to obtain back into, into the earlier things. Given that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more preferred and I wouldn't actually recommend a V6 engine.
There's a lot of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 spark plugs with strike to these engines, since they really did not have sufficient threading in the stimulate plug, which created problems.
So if you're buying anything from probably 08 and newer, you're not going to have that sort of ignition system problems. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll establish coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold typically you need to change the entire thing.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, because I'm speaking about troubles, it's a more innovative engine. Overhead cam, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is an easier layout with press poles.
They're just truly respectable, resilient, solid engines. You understand, being a van, naturally, you recognize, doing any kind of service on them is more difficult due to the fact that you've reached eliminate that cover and enter maintenance in weird means. But points like trigger plugs last an awful very long time, so they don't require to be changed very commonly.
Mark: Can you get these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not think about if we've ever done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a very long time, like back before the 2000 model year.
You recognize, that's still readily available. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm just going to state a plumbing and you've obtained like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would be a truly excellent use of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it feels like the diesels are, they seem to have much less issues in vans than they do in the vehicles. Probably because they aren't worked so hard, however when things happen, they're truly pricey to deal with. We have actually obtained a great deal of videos and info about diesels, particularly the Fords.
You really require to assume two times concerning getting a diesel in a van. That's my referral. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for function, make sure that you're fitting the engine that you're acquiring for the purpose that you're endeavouring to meet. Bernie: Yeah, specifically. And I will state, Chevy is virtually restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is an impressive gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once again, we're simply chatting regarding kind of a right, normal freight van below. The diesel certainly isn't the most effective choice. Consider your function, your use, exactly how much weight you're carrying which'll assist you make the choice. Mark: What regarding the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're virtually equivalent.
One point that we have not discussed below is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends on what design, they're available ever before from half load to one load chassis and actually several of the cutaway vans are in fact much more sturdy, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to offer the side to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's much less steering affiliation involved in a Chevy. So there are less components to wear. They do a sphere joints that put on out. So do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the guiding affiliation is much less challenging, so there's much less parts and much less products to wear.
The adventure in a Ford is possibly a little bit extra vehicle like yet I do not recognize if you 'd in fact ever before actually observed a distinction between the 2. It seems like their elements are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some factor, they seem to last for one brake work. And afterwards a whole lot of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper needs to be changed. I believe on a Ford and you can anticipate to invest a little even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back prior to the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually bad doors. I suggest, the sliding doors were crap, you understand, truly badly developed. Actually, I would certainly say that if you are also taking a look at something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles generally actually took a jump forward in high quality around the 2000 model year, because there was a whole lot of things where the brakes for instance would not last very long in any way.
However if we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I imply, I 'd state they're both possibly practically matching in quality, fit and surface, you understand, some of the passenger vans, of training course we'll have nicer appointments than the freight vans. I can not state that one of them stands out to me a little bit even more than the various other.
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